Posts tagged #libgaming

June 9, 2010 TOPIC: How can libraries get video game publishers more involved and interested in the video gaming in libraries movement?

9:44 AM 8bitlibrary: #libgaming today on Twitter at 4pmEST (here’s the topic!) http://www.facebook.com/8bitlibrary/posts/107242202657119

10:45 AM jlborgerding: RT @8bitlibrary: #libgaming today on Twitter at 4pmEST (here’s the topic!) http://www.facebook.com/8bitlibrary/posts/107242202657119

11:35 AM LibrarianJP Today at 4PMest is the #libgaming chat, but with everyone tweeting about the #FailWhale, I wonder how it’ll work out…

15:57 PM cranburypl: RT @8bitlibrary: #libgaming today on Twitter at 4pmEST (here’s the topic!) http://www.facebook.com/8bitlibrary/posts/107242202657119

15:58 PM baldwind1976:RT @8bitlibrary: #libgaming today on Twitter at 4pmEST (here’s the topic!) http://www.facebook.com/8bitlibrary/posts/107242202657119

16:01 PM infogdss29: Great prompt: #libgaming

16:03 PM infogdss29: We need a “best games for libraries” award and/or selection list, to encompass all types of games… #libgaming

16:03 PM infogdss29: … for video games, I envision something like BFYA #libgaming

16:04 PM nnschiller: #libgaming What do libraries have to offer game publishers? Marketing? Publicity? Eyeballs on their products?

16:04 PM LibrarianJP: KICKING OFF! RT @infogdss29: How can libraries get video game publishers more involved & interested in video-gaming-in-libraries? #libgaming

16:05 PM infogdss29: John Scalzo did a “bookmark” award in 2008, and editors choice in 2009 http://www.videogamelibrarian.com #libgaming

16:05 PM JustinLibrarian: @nnschiller #libgaming I think we’re like salespeople. We can really focus on their customers and let them experience their games

16:05 PM finksbrary: Thanks to @argn for the nice article about our summer project http://www.argn.com/2010/06/local_summer_reading_arg_the_mystery_guest/ #libgaming #arg

16:06 PM JustinLibrarian: #libgaming This is my “call to arms” post on @8bitlibrary to publishers. http://blog.8bitlibrary.com/2010/06/04/dear-nintendo-an-open-letter-from-8bitlibrary/ I just want to light a fire under our ass

16:06 PM infogdss29: @nnschiller all of the above! #libgaming

16:07 PM GameCouch:RT @infogdss29 How can libraries get videogame publishers more involved and interested in the videogaming in libraries movement? #libgaming

16:07 PM JustinLibrarian:  
If libgaming the google group and @8bitlibrary did a best of video games award list, would that get something going? #libgaming

16:08 PM GameCouch: @infogdss29 game reviews in professional journals. #libgaming

16:08 PM kimberlyhirsh: Nintendo partnership info http://www.nintendo.com/corp/partnerships.jsp #libgaming

16:09 PM jlborgerding: RT @infogdss29: We need a “best games for libraries” award and/or selection list, to encompass all types of games… #libgaming

16:09 PM kimberlyhirsh: @JustinLibrarian I think it would certainly be a start. We might take the Cybil awards as a model. http://dadtalk.typepad.com/cybils/ #libgaming

16:10 PM JustinLibrarian: #libgaming @kimberlyhirsh Thanks for the RT

16:10 PM nnschiller: @JustinLibrarian I’ll buy that. It goes w/ @doctorow ‘s argument “obscurity is a bigger problem than piracy.” #libgaming

16:10 PM JustinLibrarian: #libgaming I think we need to form a knife and gently put it to the throats of the publishers. WE’RE HERE FOLKS. WE LOVE YOU

16:11 PM jlborgerding: I think having an award and reviews in prof journals would get the word out gaming is serious in libraries and not a fad #libgaming

16:12 PM nnschiller: @JustinLibrarian Problem is, we may need them more than they need us. Uncomfortable position, that. #libgaming

16:12 PM kimberlyhirsh: Could we find a way to form a partnership w/EA? They’ve got an outreach program. http://insideea.com/category/ea-outreach/ #libgaming

16:13 PM nnschiller: @jlborgerding Hmmm, collecting worldcat data on games might do that too. #libgaming

16:13 PM steve_librarian: @infogdss29 @JustinLibrarian Also would be nice to have “Opening Day Collection” for games, for libraries looking to get started #libgaming

16:14 PM kimberlyhirsh: @steve_librarian Or a Core Collection #libgaming

16:14 PM LibrarianJP: More important than having these ideas on #libgaming is IMPLEMENTING them, & w that in mind, Ill be talking to publishers in next few months

16:14 pm kimberlyhirsh: Activision Corporate Citizenship http://www.activision.com/index.html#about|en_US|type:community #libgaming

16:14 PM jlborgerding: @nnschiller #libgaming It’s going to be hard, but we have to prove why they need libraries. Like why studios need libraries for film & audio

16:14 PM JustinLibrarian: @nnschiller You are onto something there my friend. We have to show them that they need us #libgaming

16:14 PM infogdss29: @JustinLibrarian sure – if the video game category is part of broader list for all types of games :) #libgaming

16:15 PM JustinLibrarian: @nnschiller It is much like the dilemma publishers/ebooks/libraries are having #libgaming

16:15 PM JustinLibrarian: #libgaming Look at this post by @librarythingtim http://www.librarything.com/topic/92663 on ebooks and libraries

16:16 PM LibrarianJP: (off #libgaming topic) hope to see you all the ALA Open Gaming! http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=128333280524640

16:16 PM JustinLibrarian: @infogdss29 Heck yes it would be! (sorry, I am so video game minded!) #libgaming

16:16 PM LibrarianJP: DRM/DLC is a big issue for game collections RT @JustinLibrarian: #libgaming Look at this post by @librarythingtim http://www.librarything.com/topic/92663

16:16 PM JustinLibrarian: @steve_librarian It needs an update, but http://blog.8bitlibrary.com/basics/ #libgaming

16:17 PM nnschiller: @JustinLibrarian Hmmm. One possible solution, circulating devices w/ digital content, like some dedicated audiobook players. #libgaming

16:17 PM infogdss29: @jlborgerding VOYA, SLJ, & Video Librarian review video games – who else can/should? #libgaming

16:18 PM jlborgerding: Of course who is going to attempt to create these partnerships? ALA? PLA? ACRL? Grassroots? #libgaming

16:19 PM Jessican_DC: RT @JustinLibrarian: #libgaming This is my call to arms post on @8bitlibrary to publishers. http://blog.8bitlibrary.com/2010/06/04/dear-nintendo-an-open-letter-from-8bitlibrary/

16:20 PM JustinLibrarian: @nnschiller Nice! This would be beautiful. DS systems!

16:22 PM kimberlyhirsh: I think we need to approach publishers w/specific proposals. #libgaming

16:23 PM infogdss29: @LibrarianJP starting the conversation is a good idea – can you get more leverage by having a large organization behind you? #libgaming

16:23 PM JustinLibrarian: RT @kimberlyhirsh: I think we need to approach publishers w/specific proposals. #libgaming (agree. ONE VOICE! LET’S BE FRIENDS!)

16:23 PM nnschiller: @kimberlyhirsh #libgaming Yes! We should know exactly what we want before we ask for anything.

16:24 PM infogdss29: @JustinLibrarian you don’t have to apologize – I’m just thinking, let’s go big! :D #libgaming

16:24 PM JustinLibrarian: @infogdss29: @LibrarianJP Good point on the large organization. I think that’s where this community comes in. #libgaming

16:24 PM jlborgerding: I keep forgetting the #libgaming tag! :P Yep it’s a Hump Day.

16:26 PM jlborgerding: ACRL should review video games, but video games in academic libraries is still in infancy. :( #libgaming

16:27 PM kimberlyhirsh: Also might be better to approach industry groups for partnerships rather than individ. publishers http://www.theesa.com/foundation/index.asp #libgaming

16:28 PM infogdss29: @jlborgerding there’s a whole book on it :) and schools that offer game design seem like they’d have an edge on that #libgaming

16:28 PM nnschiller: @jlborgerding Perhaps a style-guide for academic game reviews? Placing ourselves on the review-criticism continuum? #libgaming

16:28 PM baldwind1976: @finksbrary Love the ARG concepts you all are running.. would love to do an ARG with our community #libgaming

16:28 PM nnschiller: #libgaming What do libraries need from publishers? What would benefit our users most?

16:29 PM GameCouch: @infogdss29 gaming in libraries could have its own standard professional journal (maybe under the auspices of the ALA) #libgaming

16:31 PM jlborgerding: @infogdss29 There are few books but I was thinking awards, reviews in journals, etc. LJ has a gaming column why not C&RL News? #libgaming

16:31 PM infogdss29: @GameCouch sure, if the MIG were to become a roundtable… hmmm #libgaming

16:31 PM JustinLibrarian: #libgaming I think @8bitlibrary and libgaming google group could be the keys to starting up a more professional review thing

16:32 PM jlborgerding: RT @GameCouch: Gaming in libraries could have its own standard professional journal (maybe under the auspices of the ALA) #libgaming

16:33 PM infogdss29: @JustinLibrarian that would give out awards, as well. #libgaming

16:33 PM JustinLibrarian: @infogdss29 @GameCouch YES YES YES YES YES YES! Roundtable!

16:34 PM JustinLibrarian: #libgaming My idea: I’d love to have ALA on board for the full run but while we pursue them, let’s just do it. Have SOMETHING running!

16:34 PM JustinLibrarian: @infogdss29 Yes, we need to give out awards! #libgaming

16:35 PM infogdss29: @jlborgerding LJ’s Games, Gaming & Gamers by @lizdanforth is all-encompassing http://blog.libraryjournal.com/gamesgamersgaming #libgaming

16:36 PM jlborgerding: #libgaming Give out an award at the ALA Open Gaming (with the after-party at the ALA Dance Party).

16:37 PM infogdss29: @JustinLibrarian actually, that was my thought when I started the google group :) #libgaming

16:37 PM infogdss29: @JustinLibrarian It could be digital… #libgaming

16:37 PM kimberlyhirsh: Seems to me we’re looking at different actions: 1) Specific projects in libraries 2) Awards 3) Scholarly publishing #libgaming

16:38 PM JustinLibrarian: @infogdss29 We partner with love and respect. @8bitlibrary for a common goal! #libgaming

16:38 PM jlborgerding @infogdss29 I follow her on Twitter and have her blog bookmarked, but the RSS feed is messed up and I can’t get it in my reader. #libgaming

16:40 PM infogdss29: @kimberlyhirsh I wonder if there are publisher grant opportunities, like LBP is doing w/ MacArthur #libgaming

16:41 PM kimberlyhirsh: @infogdss29 There’s the ESA Foundation and Nintendo partnerships. I didn’t find much else in a quick search. #libgaming

16:42 PM infogdss29: @snicholson @infomancy RT @JustinLibrarian @infogdss29 @GameCouch YES YES YES YES YES YES! Roundtable!

16:47 PM JustinLibrarian #libgaming Sorry to run, but I’m so out of steam that I’ll start babbling soon and not make much sense. Love you all hearts and good stuff

16:48 PM infogdss29: I’d like to see publishers at ALA, or even local ones at state conferences, but maybe they don’t recoup the investment? #libgaming

16:49 PM jlborgerding: @infogdss29 #libgaming Or goes back to the argument that they don’t have a need for libraries. Just have to show them why they need us.

16:50 PM nnschiller: @infogdss29 Agreed, but I wonder if the ALA vendor floor isn’t waning in influence. #libgaming

16:50 PM infogdss29: publishers could also help underwrite costs of a revived Gamers Learning & Libraries conference #libgaming

16:50 PM JustinLibrarian: @jlborgerding Thank you for the chat! We’ll always be back…

16:51 PM nnschiller: @jlborgerding Right. I think a good first step is gathering data on what we need from them and what they need from us. #libgaming

16:53 PM researchquest: @nnschiller what do they need from us? does our role increase or decrease as the console generation ages? #libgaming

16:55 PM jlborgerding: @researchquest I think it increases. The console gamers are still going to want their games even as they get older. #libgaming

16:55 PM nnschiller: @researchquest Libraries can provide access to gamers, a market for sales, and an infrastructure for an emerging media. #libgaming

16:56 PM researchquest: @nnschiller regardless of introducing new tech to people (Natal), whatever our role is gathering data is never a bad thing. #libgaming

16:56 PM  mrabey: @infogdss29 Doesn’t Comic-Con have big gaming presence? And that happens usually right around same time as ALA–thus no gaming pubs @ ALA

16:58 PM jlborgerding: RT @nnschiller: Libraries can provide access to gamers, a market for sales, and an infrastructure for an emerging media. #libgaming

16:59 PM researchquest: @nnschiller @jlborgerding I agree with your thoughts we have multiple roles. Roles that depend more on our users than their tech #libgaming

17:03 PM jlborgerding: #libgaming Thanks for the chat this week. It was great. I’ll see everyone in 2 weeks! (at a conference next week). Go gamers! :)

17:04 PM ulotrichous: Sorry to miss #libgaming today, but here’s my 2¢: Focus on Marketers and PR firms, not publishers or devs. Most don’t do their PR in-house.

17:06 PM infogdss29: @ulotrichous thanks, eli, that’s an inaluable tip #libgaming

17:26 PM infogdss29: @mrabey ah, didn’t think of that angle! thanks #libgaming

22:00 PM Jessican_DC: @JustinLibrarian I missed most of the #libgaming during my commute. Can you tell me more about the google group?

22:11 PM infogdss29: @mrabey oh, that’s an excellent point! but these are BIG companies with BIG revenue…. #libgaming

June 10

13:22 PM infogdss29: @Jessican_DC http://groups.google.com/group/libgaming – forum for discussing all types of games, in all types of libraries :)